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There's certainly a lot of room for UX improvement to increase blocking safety too
[tantek] at 2025-11-24 20:48
I was thinking maybe a bit more about, would the blockee's server actually honor and implement the block, even if the admins also tell the blockee
[snarfed] at 2025-11-24 20:40
I would set expectations that any Masto block you send has a nontrivial likelihood of being shared with the user being blocked, even if on a side channel like a dm or chat
[tantek] at 2025-11-24 20:29
indienews item with a rocketship flying around! [Jo]++
[artlung] at 2025-11-24 19:24
it may be if you're considering whether to *send* a block. if you're only sending it directly to the person you're blocking, that's maybe more harm than good. if you're sending it to the admin of a site that they're a user on, you may have a bit more confidence that that admin will actually do something useful with it, or at least not retaliate against you
[snarfed] at 2025-11-24 18:35
absolutely! agreed. I think there's a meaningful difference between other networks, where most people are users on someone else's server, so blocking on-protocol can actually be useful, vs indieweb where everyone runs their own site, at least at a high level, so sending a block would always be peer to peer and less useful
[snarfed] at 2025-11-24 18:16
[snarfed] rather than worrying about a hypothetical "race to the bottom", I'd prefer we focus on the use-cases of (especially more vulnerable) people who have actually experienced harm that originated in social media, sometimes involving blocking and escalations in response to
[tantek] at 2025-11-24 18:01
depending on your req'ts, http://indieweb.org/unlisted + https://indieweb.org/unguessable_URL seem to be a sweet spot of low effort to useful end result, ie similar to real access controlled private posts with way way less work
[snarfed] at 2025-11-24 17:49
Absent some mechanism to create a subset of possible viewers posts are either full public or private and gated by some mechanism. Can webmentions be scoped to a private space?
[artlung] at 2025-11-24 17:47
the usual distinction that the other person can detect the block, but they can't detect a mute, is a decent combination of abilities
[snarfed] at 2025-11-24 17:41

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